2015 Light-Duty V-8 Challenge: Results

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Before we dive into the results, we'd like to thank the manufacturers for going to great lengths to get us the vehicles for this comparison test, as well as the folks at RaceLogic for our test equipment, and to our judges, video and photography crews who put in long hours as well as the people at Imperial Trailers who helped get us our Logan horse trailers.

We also recommend revisiting our 2013 Light-Duty Challenge to see how much progress has been made with new pickup trucks from Toyota and Ford, as well as significant powertrain upgrades from Chevrolet and GMC.

Here are all the numbers and final finishing orders for our five competitors.

 

No. 1: Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 LTZ 6.2-liter, 1,554 points

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Not a single one of our test drivers expressed the idea that the Chevy Silverado 1500 might be the favorite going into the 2015 Light-Duty V-8 Challenge. However, halfway through the week there was a groundswell of support. Although the Silverado did not collect the most points in our 11 empirical tests (the GMC won by just three points), the $54,310 Chevy won five tests outright and placed second in four others. As dominating as that might sound, it was the judges' scoring that separated the Silverado 1500 from its competitors. It scored in first or second place with four of the five judges.

The single area where the Chevy lost quantitative points was the payload category, because this vehicle was not equipped with GM's NHT max-tow package as the Sierra 1500 was. In our judges' scoring, the Chevy missed beating the Ford by a hair, largely due to the elevated quality and available options of the XLT interior. The Silverado 1500 felt like a solid all-around player that looks good working hard, but doesn't seem to stand out much or scream for attention; it did everything we asked of it and never seemed to be working too hard to get the job done. All of our judges mentioned the quietness of the interior and strength of the powertrain.

But this contest was not just about what our five judges thought or even how quickly the transmission slammed through the gears during wide-open throttle; this contest went to the pickup truck that performed the best in as many challenges as possible, and that's why the 2015 Light-Duty V-8 Challenge winner is the Chevy Silverado 1500 6.2-liter eight-speed, beating the GMC by just 11 points and the all-new Ford F-150 by 45 points.

 

No. 2: GMC Sierra 1500 SLT 6.2-liter, 1,543 points

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There wasn't a lot mechanically different in the GMC Sierra 1500 we received for this test when comparing it to its Silverado 1500 sibling, but its unique qualities made all the difference in this closely contested comparison test. The standout features were clearly the big 6.2-liter V-8 and new eight-speed transmission. Of the 11 empirical tests we performed for this comparison, either the Chevy or the GMC won nine. The GMC Sierra 1500 included the NHT max-tow package, which gave the truck a stronger (and bigger ring-and-pinion) rear axle, stiffer suspension, a numerically higher gear set (3.42:1) and different tires. You wouldn't think that would make a big difference, but it was just enough to give it a little more launching power in some situations and a little less compliance in others.

Still, at the end of our 11 quantitative tests, the GMC finished in first place, just three points ahead of Chevy. In our qualitative judging, with the exception of one of our judges, the GMC Sierra 1500 did not garner enough points from our experts to finish better than fourth. Recognizable strengths included having the highest gross vehicle weight rating and resulting payload rating, but it did have some trouble with loaded braking. Our midlevel SLT trim package cost $54,655.

 

No. 3: Ford F-150 XLT 5.0-liter, 1,509 points

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You would think the smallest engine in this test would be at a distinct disadvantage, but nothing was further from the truth. The new Ford F-150 is an impressive combination of engineering and smart integration, all wrapped in an aluminum shell. The result is probably the most confident feeling and strongest road cruiser of our test. The way the power gets to the wheels and the steering wheel connects to the suspension is simply impressive.

The truck Ford provided for this competition was the result of a lot of people breaking rules: All the F-150s available for testing were technically "pre-production," meaning Ford could only give us what was available, which is why we got a V-8 XLT with EcoBoost badging on the side of the truck. Still, this test truck won two of our 11 tests outright and finished second in two more; not bad for a little V-8 player.

Additionally, our judges, as a group, scored the F-150 in first place in our six qualitative categories. Who knows what could have happened if we had a Lariat or new King Ranch. At $47,845 our F-150 was the second least expensive pickup truck of our test (the least expensive was the Toyota Tundra), but it still offered a solid value. In the end, the top three finishers were separated by just 45 points.

 

No. 4: Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn 5.7-liter, 1,422 points

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If there was a surprise in this test, it was how clearly targeted the Ram 1500 was by the all-new or significantly upgraded Ford and GM entries. As you may recall from our 2013 Light-Duty Challenge, the Ram 1500 lost the overall comparison test by a hair's breadth to the Ford. This time around, it looks like the level of the competition was raised considerably to meet Ram's challenge.

According to our judges, there is no denying the tremendous amount of value you get for the money with the Laramie Longhorn interior, but where the Ram lost most of its points was in its limited payload, braking numbers and the ride quality of the air suspension when towing or loaded. Although the Ram did not win a single test category, it scored well almost everywhere with the exception of braking and fuel economy, where it lost the largest percentage of points to the F-150. At $54,820, the Ram did the best job of packing in available options to stay under our $55,000 ceiling, but it wasn't enough.

 

No. 5: Toyota Tundra TRD Pro 5.7-liter, 1,295 points

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The Tundra TRD Pro was an interesting choice for Toyota to send for this competition; it is its newest trim package for 2015, and at $45,045 it was the least expensive player in our competition. The big tires and wheels, softer suspension and durability-first interior definitely impressed some judges, but this combination was outmatched in all of our payload and towing exercises, showing various amounts of rear-end sag throughout. Additionally, although we loved the TRD exhaust note when watching it make wide-open-throttle runs down the track, when spending any amount of time behind the wheel, the droning of the exhaust note from inside the truck became almost unbearable.

There's no question there is plenty of value in this new off-road performance package, but as an all-around truck performer the TRD Pro came up short in every category of this test (with the exception of exterior design) — which is probably more about the new powertrain levels of the competition than it is specifically related to Tundra's new interior and exterior styling. If this test proved anything, it should be that Toyota needs to seriously consider revamping its powertrain lineup.

Notes About Scoring

Scoring for our 2015 Light-Duty V-8 Challenge was similar to past comparison tests. We awarded 100 points to the winning vehicle for each test category, with the remaining competitors receiving their calculated percentage. Our 11 empirical categories included acceleration, braking and vehicle capability comparisons, while the rest of our point totals (about 35 percent) consisted of expert judges scoring in six different areas. Our judges included freelance automotive journalist David Boldt, Cars.com Road Test Editor Joe Bruzek, HardWorkingTruck.com Editor Bruce Smith, MrTruck.com's Kent Sundling and PickupTrucks.com Editor Mark Williams.

The winner and subsequent rankings were determined by adding up the point totals from both quantitative and qualitative scoring. We use this format so you can see and adjust the scored categories any way you'd like, adjusting them to fit your own personal priorities. In effect, you can score your own test to call your own winner. As impressed as we were with the level of discussion and comments generated by our expert testers, we know that you're likely to have your own way of seeing things or judging the same categories.

To download an image with all the results of each event, their corresponding scores and our judges' totals, click here.

As noted in the overview, we did not have the Nissan Titan in this test and the F-150 Ford we had might not have been the best representative of a production truck that we could get, but this group of pickups did give us a chance to offer you the most up-to-date 2015 Light-Duty V-8 Challenge contenders we could assemble. Ford will be the first to note that the top-performing engine in this segment is not the V-8 but rather the carryover 3.5-liter twin-turbo EcoBoost engine. That, however, will have to be a test for another day — this one was just about V-8s.

What's Next? Our Annual Physical

We should note that we will post our Annual Physical soon. That report will include many of the same tests and types of data for several V-6 half-ton pickups with their own specific criteria to meet (less than $34,000, V-6 engines and 4x2 setups). That means we'll have comparative numbers for the Ford F-150 2.7-liter and 3.5-liter V-6 EcoBoost engines as well as the 4.3-liter V-6 Chevrolet Silverado 1500, the Ram 1500 3.6-liter Pentastar and Ram 1500 EcoDiesel. As you may recall, the whole reason we started our Annual Physical — like all of our comparison tests — is to collect and pass along to you as much data as possible. We'll continue to do that as long as you let us know that's what you want.

Cars.com photos by Evan Sears

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Comments

The FE of the GMs is the most impressive result in this test.

Currently have the following trucks and like them all, and their FE suck:

2011 Tundra Crew 4x4 on 33's: 10 mpg
2007 Silverado extended 4x4 stock tires: 14 mpg
2007 Tundra extended 4x4 on 33's: 10 mpg
2002 Silverado 2500 Crew 4x4 HD 6.0L gas stock tires: 10 mpg.
2003 Tundra extended two wheel drive 4.7L: 16 mpg (small truck in comparison to the others, still nice though).

Almost 20 mpg from new 6.2's! Amazing. Even with 33's mpg probably close to 17. OUTSTANDING improvement, particularly given size of motors.

hahah. even the chevy dealer said that if you're not loaded $$$$, you cant have a 6.2. stupid GM ripping off their customers and giving them poor engine choices in the wake of huge profits. shame shame shame.

The power of the 6.2L GM engine is impressive--but can you get it anything other than a $50k+ asphalt queen?

I can't believe there wasn't any sort of of offroad test--a minivan could have done most of the items done. I use my pickup for fishing, camping, hauling dirt bikes, etc.

To not test all trucks with the same fuel is moronic - either all regular or all premium. I'm sure all the trucks are sophisticated enough with adaptive knock control to advance or retard spark based on knock sensor feedback. To allow some trucks to run premium and therefore run with their most aggressive spark maps and subsequently getting the most performance is unfair to the other trucks that's would have also benefitted from the more advanced timing that they're capable of with better fuel. A significant oversight in overall flawed testing.

New F150's having major issues with body panel fit, go over to f150 forum if you don't believe me, doors sticking out, pretty bad, never buy first year anything folks, that includes the 2.7 Ford and the GM Twins 8 Speed Auto, though its a minor gamble with the 8 Speed and the 6.2 is well sorted out, Ford well look at their pathetic powertrain warranty, their engines are never going to last like the Hemi or GM, even the 5.0 has some issues, but the turbos, now they are real lemons in this story.

I always see these arguments about how one truck should have been equipped versus another. I think many of the points are valid, but it seems that the manufacturers seem to game the system when they choose what truck to send. Or they say we could only get x model because that is what they sent us. I say that we should be crowd sourcing the option list for each and ordering a truck to be built that people vote are best matched. Did it ever occur to anyone that the manufacturers might send an equipment level that is designed to lose so they can have an excuse. They don't really want to see an apples to apples comparison. Then they could get hammered for failing in a level playing field. How about this OEMs and Pickuptrucks.com Give us a buget and a set of guidelines and let the readers build a truck to compete in these competitions!!!!! Set up a special copy of the online configurator for each OEM and track what people choose the most. Think about how much play you will get on that for website traffic and discussion about how they should be aligned. No brainer PUTC. Set a deadline for 12/31/2015 to get all of the responses done and order them January 1st next year. Each OEM will have to provide the truck ordered to spec or not compete. Test them 3 months later after they are all delivered.

Also PUTC. Please post your criteria for what you will do for payload, trailer weight, fuel etc. Before you test them! Let the readers pick it apart first! Every time I read one of these comparisons it has obvious holes in it like premium fuel or different weight trailers etc. These are hardly fair and get hammered every time you do it. If you are going to use different fuel for different trucks then fuel economy comes down to cost etc. not just raw MPG. Premium is closer to Diesel in cost a lot of times. Many of these trucks are flex fuel too. If you run E-85 in most of the Chevy's you end up with more horsepower and torque. There are so many ways to game this system. PUTC needs to do a better job of setting up something that is fair and consistent. For the record I drive a Nissan Titan and don't have a dog in this fight. I have owned a truck by all of these makers in the past. Liked them all. They take turns on top and for different things. I would likely buy the Tundra in this shootout, for the off roadability. It does not compete in any configuration with the 6.2L GMs for towing and hauling. Neither does the Ram. These trucks are all for different jobs. PUTC job is to not allow pre-production models into the comparision and to set rules that the OEMs can't game. Let us pick the trucks and preview the tests and the variables. You will get a ton of input if you do. Also V8 versus V6 is not a good indicator of an engine anymore. In the 3/4 ton you don't separate the Cummins I6 from V8 Duramax or V8 Powerstroke. 4.3L V6 from GM and 4.6 V8 from Toyota, 5.0L V8 Ford That is 700ccs difference between the 3 engines. Similar in power, all naturally aspirated. These are a better comparison that 5.0L V8 on regular and 6.2L V8 on premium.

@Hemi lol

You are not telling Lou BC the complete truth and we both know it. Those wheels and tires on that TRD Pro are the last gen Tundra's TRD Rock Warrior wheels and tires. The Rock Warrior wheels were the smallest rims (17) available for the Tundra. They were also the lightest wheels available for the Tundra http://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oem-wheel-weights.463603/. That is why they come with the heaviest tires. Now when I got my Rock Warrior wheels I ditched those tires for lighter ones and gained much better acceleration. Those wheels and tires and that trim Tundra were bad for this competition but a platinum or 1794 probably would have finished last still.

@Tom Wilkinson from Chevy


What is the power output of the 6.2L with regular 87 octane instead of the 91 octane recommended by the owners manual and used to achieve it's power numbers? All the other trucks (besides the Hemi) only require the less expensive 87 octane to run. Also, in the owners manual for GM it states you will get less fuel economy running 87 octane in the 6 2L along with some engine knock that might occur. How much will fuel economy drop and how much engine knock can you expect if you use 87 octane in the 6.2L?

Do the math... even with gas prices as cheap as they are right now the GM trucks are still cheaper to run per mile (unloaded) on premium than Ford on regular. The difference becomes larger as fuel prices increase.

its kinda said actuly, ford had the Smallest Motor, and still technically won, chevy needs a bigger motor to compete with Ford. Chevys are Junk

@Lou_BC the fact that an "offroad" truck with heavy 10 ply light truck tires did this well is a plus in the book for Toyota. So it can offroad better than the others, and still tow, sounds like a win win to me... Because the Raptor would be nearly overloaded with the 6,400 pound trailer….
Those BFGS weigh probably ~60 pounds each. The P rated tires on the other trucks weigh maybe 40 pounds. So that's an extra 20 pounds of tire on each corner of dead weight that the truck has to turn and STOP. That makes a big difference.

The Tundra is like the F-150 in the 2008 ½ ton test; it is the heaviest truck with the oldest power train.
But I remember Pickuptrucks.com giving the nod to the F150 with that pathetic 5.4L engine even though it never won a “race” in the whole event, and was really never the best at anything. It was the truck that needed the “powertrain that needed some serious revamping”. Funny how that works yet it can still win the competition…

I agree that the 6.2/8speed GM trucks deserved to win, I knew that the GM trucks would be strong. The last generations 6.2 was strong, just the transmission was holding it back.

Surprised Ford didn't send their Ecoboost, but I think they were afraid of losing. GM didn't send the 5.3 because you can't get a 5.3 with an 8 speed this year. Like all manufactures, a all new transmission needs a year or two to ramp up production so I suspect it or something else will show up in the 16 5.3's. No reason to send a 6 speed 5.3 when a 8 speed 6.2 matches the mpg just about, and wins in power. Best foot forward.

Ram and especially Toyota, need some improvements.

The funny thing is, some will still call this site "Ford biased" next time the results don't work in their favor.

The GM 8 speed needs to be fitted to the v6 4.3 ASAP! sounds like with 3.73 or 3.42 gearing that combo would be very wel suited to power just about any truck, including a reg cab 2500 hd plow truck that only needs to travel from driveway to driveway. a cheaper solution for work trucks that actually get used for work. I can see the lighter v6 with that transmission getting excellent city fuel economy too. A zr2 package colorado with 8 sped and 4.3 would seel like hotcakes to the GM faithful, that still drive s10, blazers etc. with the 4.3 of last gen. GM has A ton of different variations that can come to fruition if the right people will stand behind the ideas for the people who are GM loyal.

The ten speed from ford is going to a be a revolution for the truck. it will gain in all areas. And should compete evenly with the current 5.0 engine design with that transmission pushing the wheels. Rams hemi is old and really isnt that great. the 8 speed that the hemi has behind it is what has kept it alive this long. They need a 5.0 to compete. same with toyota. only loyal toyota fans will buy one for what it is. new engines and transmissions are needed to keep pace. GM has finally broke through the its too old, it isnt good enough barrier. i am heavily impressed with the results and commend GM for what it has done. I think if they really want to dominate ford they need to bring GMC along with the silverado and sell both at the same dealership. then the choice will be easier for the consumer. The high country line and the denali line should be even as possible. just badging and style traits left for the consumer to decide which is more appealing. maybe engine differences? turbo charged in GMC N/A in chevrolet? Diesel only in GMC? those would really define the brands. I hope this is the case in the future. Can see detriot diesel name being rehashed into the pickup truck market and there being tons of fans!

wonder how long it will take Ram to put the 6.4L Hemi in the Ram 1500. GMC and Ford have really stepped it up, the little 5.7 hemi used to out run their 6.2's.

Regarding the 6.2, we are fortunate to be able to give customers a real choice -- two V-8s, plus a Small Block V-6 that has the performance of a V-8 from just a few years back. All three engines build off the knowledge gained from over 100 million Small Block engines -- it will take EcoBoost a while to earn that kind of track record.

The 6.2 isn't for everyone -- you pay a premium for the engine and the fuel. But if the question is, "What is your best Silverado under $55K?" the 6.2 is part of the answer.

While a more mainstream version of the Tundra might have been more competitive, it was still going to get beat. Why not throw a hail mary and try to win over the judges opinion with a special edition truck?

@Tom Wilkinson at Chevy _ I like the fact that the GM siblings can be had with a 2k cargo rating. To me that is considerably more important than towing. The cargo rating of the Ram and Tundra put then in the BOF SUV class. You can carry cargo or passengers but not both at the same time.

A family of 4 with pets can weigh in at 600-800 lbs. easily. That kills any cargo or tow ratings on any truck under 1500 lb capacity.

I absolutely hate the fact that a test is run "under $$$". If you are going to do a half ton comparison, do it on an equally equipped playing field, not a price tag playing field. This site used to do the best, most equal test comparisons on the web, car truck or otherwise, the standards for a fair, equal head to head criteria have gone to the dogs in my opinion.

Except for the heavy truck comparo, that was a great, fair test.

@Tim, What's not fair about the test? they put all 4 V8's in a ring and set them lose. the GM's would have likely won with the 5.3 just as they did with 6.2.

I just question why PUTC would specify V8s only? Why not just ask for their best powertrain for the purpose of the test? I doubt many people looking for a tow/haul truck would get the 5.0 vs the EcoBoost. In fact, I really doubt anyone would cross-shop a 6.2 vs. a 5.0. Maybe 6.2 to Hemi. Maybe even the Hemi to a 5.0 (if said purchaser just HAS to have a V8). But the 5.0 is Ford's midrange motor, just like the GM 5.3. Specifying a particular engine configuration is just not valid any longer, there are more choices than there used to be, and most prospective purchasers are looking at what the truck will do, not what motor it has in it. Hey, maybe Ram would have chosen to send an EcoDiesel instead of the Hemi...

Other than the fuel mileage and maybe the breaking test an Eco diesel would have been utterly stomped. Hell, in Fords 2.7 eco boost promotional video, the Chevy 5.3 out accelerated the Eco diesel.

@kibsford, The best half ton truck comparo would be to include all of the half ton trucks with every power train they offer. If you want to give consumers the most information that will help them determine the best truck and powertrain to fit their needs, you need to do exactly that. Fords Ecoboost would have done well against the GM 6.2's, The Ford 5.0 would have had a horsepower boost using E85, the Chevy 5.3 would have showed customers how it performs against the competition both power and mileage, the ecodiesel would have given a great comparison in mileage, power and cost. All these engines could have been in a truck under $55k. So forget the cost, equip them to their max capability, and test them ALL. That would not only be sweet, but the best information any one site has given consumers.

An eco diesel would have been stomped in this test. It was out gunned in the Ford video by both the 5.3 Chevy and the 2.7 eco boost. So give the win to the eco diesel on MPG and it would have been in last place in every other test.

@Tim. "The best half ton truck comparo would be to include all of the half ton trucks with every power train they offer."

That makes sense to me. I still dont think this V8 comparo was all that bad and unfair. Fords 2.7 is better matched with the 5.3 and eco diesel. the 5.0 in my opinion is a killer motor and proves just how good Fords modular DOHC V8s are. They make more power more efficiently then ohv engines of the same size. I think we will see the 3.5 ecoboost show up in the next comparison to mop up any last questions people have about fords lack of big V8s. the nice thing about this site is they always listen to feed back. Your idea of equip them to their max capability, and test them ALL has been used on the HD segment tests. And I agree that it should be used for the half ton segment.

I think it might be time to visit Laura Buick GMC outside St Louis and trade my Wrangler in on a Denali in Onyx, they seem to have the best posted prices around and beat my local dealers by a lot without fighting with them, its a long drive but seems worth it, of course getting 6.2, its why I didn't get the 6.2 with the 6 speed, 8 speed and a year under its belt being built and I might take the plunge, esp with another 3 grand off GM Card allowance which is normally capped at 1500.

There is an article in "Bold Ride" about a guy that bought a used 1957 Chevy pickup 38 years ago for $75 and is still driving it. Do you think any of these new trucks can last 57+ years and keep running? I seriously doubt it.

Enough already with the "they should have tested xxx"!

ALL OF THOSE TRUCKS WERE TESTSED!

You are seeing information from 5 trucks here. What you are not seeing is that 12 total trucks were actually tested during this outing. PUTC is a small operation with limited resources so they are taking a 12 truck test and breaking it up into 2 or 3 different articles in order to spread their content out over a larger timeframe.

They decided that they could take the first 5 trucks of the 12 they tested and call it a "v8 challenge" and went with it. The next group of trucks will be called the "v6 physical" and you will get to see the rest. So all of you that want to see an ecoboost or ecodisel just wait, you will be able to directly compare the results from that article with the results from this article.

Chevrolet needs a black high country interior option and an upgraded base interior + ltz. Add in an ecoat frame + wheel well molding options and they'd be my first choice. Until the aluminum body issues are worked out. I too like the Chevy better than GM's Sierra this time but there's a few things holding the Silverado back. Good test.

I'm glad to see the big three win, they are not so far apart from each other in comparison wise. Each offering their own strengths. GM, Ford, and Ram make some great trucks. There might be a winner but they are all great quality trucks no more hard plastic interior and mediocracy from them. Big thumbs up.

Good job GM!! Way to get the job done! I love my chevy truck!

Just saw the new Car and Driver. Well written test on pickups. This time it was the ecoboost and the Toyota that should have been in this test against the Dodge and Chevrolet 6.2. Good stuff...

They forgot to subtract a 1000 points for the utter fuglyness of the GM beasts

The 6.2 is a real gem of a motor! Coupled with the 8l90 it's a combo that (literally) can't be beat.

Here is a happy 2015 Ford F150 owner, not only is he not the brightest bulb with this crazy ripoff lease, he blames his poor wife instead of admitting he doesn't want the truck.


http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/4837273879.html

I guess Mike hasn't read the Car and Driver.

I read it, the Egoboost matched the 6.2 FE, wow, that's so impressive, I think I'll take the V8, the only knock against the Chevy was slightly stiffer ride. They gave it to the Ford for its eletronics, barely weighed less than the Chevy, like 65 pounds difference, so engine vs engine is probably the difference.

So is that Ford Engineering vs GM haha, TurBlow V6, Beer can body and they barely weigh less than the Superior GM Truck, better powertrain real V8 from the Corvette no less along with the 8 Speed Auto from the Corvette as well.

Job 1 F150's are having all kinds of build gap, panel sticking out issues but still the Ford nuthuggers blindly go and buy blindly.

Like I said before the smart truck shoppers go Normally Aspirated in the Gassers, proven powertrains, Egobust isn't proven even years into production, vs Small Block GM 60 years.

I guess Mike hasn't read the Car and Driver.

Wasn't expecting that Mr. OBLIVIOUS. They just had a different perspective AND different results. If you want yo talk credibility I will take Car and Driver over PUTC.

I wonder what the results would be if the Ford used Premium octane like the others. This was not mentioned and funny others have not picked up on this.

This test is ridiculous. I live in AZ; have a 2014 Tundra crew max 4x4 (SR5 TRD) and it does 0-60 at about 6.1 on a launch and 6.6 when just standing on it from a stop. Check proof on you tube. I have not time-tested it pulling but when my buddy's 6k pound boat is attached it doesn't miss a beat (I use Tow/Haul mode - not sure if it makes an acceleration diff). Unloaded MPG is 13-14 with lead foot, 14-15 hitting it once in a while and 15-16 with a feather touch (all in mixed driving). I paid $36k in Jan 2014; thousands less than what is tested here. Tested the Silverado 5.3 & F150 ecobust comparable models at the time and the Tundra 5.7 was the obvious choice. I didn't consider Ram as it's a Fiat now. Titan was too old.

kind of weird that the results were actually posted on January 5, 2015, but yet I didn't see them in my browser until the 9th? Oh well, at least I can see them now and they are indeed interesting results!

I give ford credit for pushing the limits, having said that, the turblows if so great, why doesn't ford have a better powertrain warranty???

Also these 2015 Ford F150 are having major build issues, I mean MAJOR, ford has different job numbers for the builds and these are Job 1, POS's.

Another build issue is rear seat cupholder/seatbacks NOT fitting into the seat itself, it sticks way out and doesn't go into the slot, guess your SOL if you sit in the middle back seat.

These are the sort of things that would never make it out of the factory at GM and that's a fact, Ford doesn't care only profits, 60+ Thousand bucks and too cheap to even paint the undercarriage/frame??

My Wrangler is fully painted underneath, even the rear end, not the Ford, just plain cheap and charging tons more for the Alum.

You can be a ford lover but don't be a stupid one, buying Job 1 now just to have something no one else has to make your friends jealous if that's your thing is just plain stupid.

A Ram, GM or Toyota is going to be better made and much cheaper, wait a couple years before jumping this was a major revision and ford was in a rush to get it to market, damned be the quality.

Tom is exactly correct, GM has made 100 Hundred Million Small Blocks+ that was in 2011.

The 4.3 v6 makes the same HP as the previous generation 4.8 v8.

The 6.2 is from the Corvette as is the 8 speed, can any Ford lover expect us to believe the EgoJoke is better than the Corvette v8???

Why cant ford bump the power on the 5.0, in the Rustang it makes over 420HP, oh ya that's right, the mileage would go down even more.

Now all this 10 speed auto talk, GM is the one really developing that Tranny not Ford, I remember when GM even brought over the transmission to Ford for the new F150, the story was here btw.

Its called Hydra-Matic and its been around longer than most of the people posting on here (1939).


@Tom Wilkinson
Regarding the 6.2, we are fortunate to be able to give customers a real choice -- two V-8s, plus a Small Block V-6 that has the performance of a V-8 from just a few years back. All three engines build off the knowledge gained from over 100 million Small Block engines -- it will take EcoBoost a while to earn that kind of track record.

The 6.2 isn't for everyone -- you pay a premium for the engine and the fuel. But if the question is, "What is your best Silverado under $55K?" the 6.2 is part of the answer.

For a few years now I have blasted the current GM trucks and praised Ram as doing what Old GM used to do. I don't like Ford trucks but recognize they are great vehicles and I recently bought a 2014 Silverado V6 to use in my business fleet and it is a heck of a good truck but I still cant believe that GM won this test or any test for that matter.

Greatest Machines, GM trucks prove the competition cannot compete against the best trucks offered today.

Would have been nice to see one of the GM's with a 5.3 and a Ford with the Ecoboost just for comparison. And RAM with Ecodiesel! I know, list could go on and on! Overall good contest.

The V-6 winner will be easy to pick

1. Ford 3.5
2. Ford 2.7
3. Ram 3.0
4 .Ram 3.6/Chev/GM 4.3



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