First Look: 2011 Ford F-Series Super Duty

First Look: 2011 Ford F-Series Super Duty

Now that Ford has unveiled its advanced new 6.7-liter V-8 Power Stroke turbocharged diesel engine, they’re also revealing the truck that wraps around it today, at the 2009 State Fair of Texas, in the heart of truck country.

The 2011 Super Duty is the third version of Ford’s heavy-duty pickup in the last four years and the second since Ford reworked the truck for the 2008 model year.

In a segment where major truck revisions have traditionally been measured using the automotive equivalent of geologic time scales, changes this significant and close together are extremely rare, especially when Ford’s HD competitors – GM and Chrysler – are also introducing considerably updated HD pickups.

GM’s 2011 model year 2500 and 3500 Chevrolet and GMC Heavy Duty pickups are expected to arrive by the middle of 2010 with freshened exteriors and a next-generation 6.6-liter Duramax V-8 diesel powertrain that promises a few new tricks. The 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty pickups should hit dealer lots this winter with their 6.7-liter Cummins I6 clean diesel and featuring all-new sheetmetal and redesigned interiors.

Ford’s changes are critical to keeping its lock on the Heavy Duty segment, where the F-250 three-quarter-ton and F-350 one-ton trucks rule the pack with almost 50 percent market share; the Ford F-450 1.5-ton continues in a segment that it owns but with several major revisions.

2011 Ford F-Series Super Duty interior

Gas and Diesel Engines

Update #1 September-25-2009 01:29 PDT:
The original story stated that Ford would continue to offer the 5.4-liter V-8 gas engine. That was incorrect. The existing 6.8-liter V-10 and new 6.2-liter V-8 will be the only petrol motors available for 2011 F-Series Super Duty trucks, depending on whether they are a pickup or a commercial chassis cab. I regret and apologize for the error. - Mike Levine

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Heavy Duty pickups exist to tow and haul the heaviest loads. While the 6.7-L PSD will be the power-pulling crown jewel of the 2011 Super Duty lineup, two other gas engines will be available for the F-250 through F-550 pickups and commercial chassis cabs: today’s 6.8-liter V-10 Triton and an all-new 6.2-liter V-8, which is also slated for use in the 2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor off-road pickup. This is the engine formerly referred to as the Boss V-8, and the Hurricane before that.

The single overhead cam (SOHC) 6.2-liter V-8 features two spark plugs per cylinder and dual equal variable cam timing.

According to Mike Harrison, Ford’s V-8 gasoline engine programs manager, dual equal VCT dynamically changes the timing of both the intake and exhaust valves together but it does this using only the single camshaft per cylinder head and two VCT actuators (one per cam). Each cam actuates the intake and exhaust valves on each cylinder bank. When the camshaft is advanced or retarded via the VCT actuator, both the intake and exhaust valve timing is advanced or retarded by an equal amount -- hence the name ‘dual equal.’

There are several benefits to using dual equal VCT, including improved fuel economy, NVH and emissions when idling or highway cruising, and increased torque and power response at full throttle.

Ford won’t say what the final power figures are for its new 2011 engines, though we have heard that the 6.7-L PSD will make more than 390 horsepower and 720 pounds-feet of torque. The 6.2-L V-8 is expected to pump out approximately 400 hp and 400 lbs.-ft. of torque.

For the U.S., the 6.2-L gas engine will be E85-compatible from Job 1 and the 6.7-L Power Stroke will be certified to run on biodiesel blends up to B20 (20% biodiesel and 80% conventional diesel).

Super Duty trucks headed for sale outside the U.S. will be calibrated to run on high-sulfur diesel fuel, which would gum up the soot trapping diesel particulate filters of U.S.-spec trucks, or to burn old-school leaded gas in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.

The 6.7-liter diesel will meet the California Air Resource Board’s tough oil-burning emissions standards that force non-compliant diesel engines to automatically shut down after five minutes of idling if they produce too much nitrogen oxide emissions. The F-Series Super Duty trucks will be able to idle indefinitely and still meet CARB’s tough NOx emissions limits.

New 6R140 TorqShift Transmission

All three engines will be paired with Ford’s all-new 6R140 heavy-duty TorqShift six-speed automatic transmission that promises innovative shift strategies and power takeoff features. It replaces two transmissions – the 5R110 heavy-duty TorqShift five-speed automatic and six-speed ZF manual, which has been discontinued for the 2011 model year.

Ford has badly needed a six-speed automatic transmission for its diesel HD pickups to compete with Dodge’s 68RFE and GM’s Allison T1000 six-speed automatics. The six-speed also gives Ford gear parity with GM’s 6L90 six-speed 6.0-liter V-8 gas engine and an extra cog over Dodge’s 545RFE five-speed 5.7-liter Hemi V-8 gas engine.

6-Speed 6R140 Transmission

First and second gears have been deepened, from 3.11 and 2.02 in the 5R110 to 3.97 and 2.32 in the 6R140, so the truck can start with less effort. There’s a larger step between the first two gears (1.65 vs. 1.09) which previously might have raised concerns that the truck would feel like it was getting bogged down after upshifting to second gear.

The addition of a sixth cog means the Super Duty also gets a second overdrive gear for improved cruising fuel economy. Fifth gear is .86 and sixth is .67, vs. a .71 top gear in the old 5R110.

Unlike the 5R110, which had a 1.00 ratio in fourth gear, the 6R140 jumps from 1.15 in fourth to fifth gear overdrive.

The new transmission wrings out several inefficiencies vs. the 5R110 that help improve fuel economy. They include faster warm-up times and operating the transmission cooling system at 200 degrees F instead of 173 F – a temperature that Ford says strikes a good balance between mileage and trailer-towing shift performance.

The 6R140 also uses a new torque converter lockup strategy that enables the torque converter to lockup sooner and more often, which allows the engine to run at a lower rpm for better fuel economy. A long-travel turbine damper helps the torque converter cope with the 6.7-L V-8 diesel’s high torque output and allows the powertrain to lug down to 900 rpm.

Gas engine models inherit the Super Duty’s electronically controlled viscous clutch that debuted on the 2008-10 6.4-L diesel trucks, for better fuel economy and better overall NVH and controllability.

6R140 vs. 5R110 Gear Ratios

SelectShift

The 6R140 doesn’t stop with the addition of sixth gear; it adds Ford’s “SelectShift” feature that lets the driver lock-out gears and manually shift and hold gears in a way that’s similar to GM’s and Dodge’s automatic transmissions.

Here’s how SelectShift works: On the gear select lever, mounted on the truck’s steering column, there’s a shift-up/shift-down button near the tow/haul button. If you’re in “Drive” and enter SelectShift mode you’ll be able to lock out sixth gear. The truck will communicate the subtraction by showing only five gear positions in the instrument cluster display. Doing this turns the six-speed transmission into an electronically limited five-speed. Drivers can also lock out every other gear down to first, though you’d obviously limit the truck’s driving performance envelope. An automatic rev limiter ensures the truck won’t blow the redline if you shift into this mode while traveling at highway speeds.

What’s the advantage of locking out gears? If you’re cruising through rolling hills in tow/haul mode, tapping the brake to automatically downshift on descents, you can narrow the range of gears the truck will have to step through so the transmission isn’t constantly hunting across the large gear span. It’s another way the automatic transmission can perform like a manual gearbox.

“We giving the customer more control at their fingertips in lieu of the customer letting the transmission control everything,” Chris Brewer, Ford Super Duty Chief Engineer, said, “and the driver only able to give guidance with the brake.”

SelectShift will allow the driver to manually shift up or down on demand and hold specific gears, as long as the engine doesn’t exceed redline.

New Driver Information Display

Live Drive PTO

Power takeoff isn’t new to heavy-duty pickups, particularly chassis cabs like the Dodge Ram 3500 and its Aisin six-speed transmission. PTO enables running auxiliary equipment directly off the truck’s engine via either a splined driveshaft or the transmission.

Ford’s new Live Drive PTO taps the Super Duty's crankshaft through the 6R140, so you can power hardware like a snowplow, cement mixer or a generator on the go in stop/start conditions. Until now, if you were using PTO to power a peripheral while moving and came to a complete stop, PTO would shutoff when the transmission's torque converter disconnected at idle. LiveDrive provides power at all times because power comes directly off the motor, regardless of whether or not the torque converter is locked up.

Parasitic power will be limited while the truck is on the go. The Live Drive PTO will be rated at 150 lbs.-ft. of torque while the truck is moving and 250 lbs.-ft. of torque when it’s parked.

Imagination is the only limit for a feature like this. Brewer said Ford is already working with aftermarket companies to create applications to take advantage of the Live Drive feature.

Live Drive PTO will be optional for all F-250 to F-550 Super Duty trucks equipped with the 6.7-L diesel. Brewer said there are no plans to enable PTO for the 6.2-L gas V-8, though conventional gas engine PTO will be available for chassis cabs that use the legacy 6.8-L V-10 engine.

6.8-L Triton V-10 Tradeoff

Speaking of the 6.8-liter V-10 – the diesel-like 362 hp, 457 lbs.-ft. of torque gas engine (which we previously selected as our favorite HD gasser because of it’s powerful performance during our 2007 Heavy Duty Shootout) with the legacy 5R110 five-speed automatic gearbox will be reserved for only the F-450 and F-550 chassis cab business.

So, are Class 2 and Class 3 buyers of the 2011 Ford Super Duty losing something with the introduction of the 6.2-L V-8 and the loss of the 6.8-L V-10? Brewer doesn’t think it’s a loss as much as a tradeoff for reasonable power, better fuel economy and a better transmission.

It’s Brewer’s responsibility to make sure that the newest Super Duties can stand up to customer needs and that it will beat the targets Ford expects the competition will be aiming for in their future HD pickups.

“We deliberately looked long and hard at [our new engine lineup],” Brewer said. “With the 6.2-L V-8 straddling the middle between the 5.4-L V-8 and 6.8-L V-10, coupled with pairing it up with the six-speed transmission, we said the 6.2-L is the best of all worlds. The fuel economy of the 6.2-L V-8 is going to be better than the 5.4-liter V-8 and 6.8-liter V-8 and 5R110 [TorqShift transmission] is today.”

Brewer won’t say how much more efficient the new diesel and gas powertrains will be over the 2007-10 Super Duty pickups, but Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari says Ford is confident that the Super Duty will be class-leading.

“We feel that we’ll be able to give customers a pretty good substitute for the 6.8-liter V-10 and a very big upgrade over the 5.4-liter V-8,” said Brewer. “The 6.2-liter won’t be an absolute advantage over the 6.8-liter but for the bulk of customers that are choosing between the 5.4-liter and 6.8-liter today, we think the 6.2-liter 6R is the right compromise for the Class 2 and Class 3 trucks.”

Towing and Hauling

Like the horsepower and torque figures, Ford has remained coy about specific changes to Super Duty max towing and payload ratings.

Brewer says that, in general, payload capability will improve by about 100 pounds, for two reasons: First, the new 6.7-L diesel engine weighs about 160 pounds less than the outgoing 6.4-L diesel. This improves both front payload and the gross axle weight rating, particularly for applications like snow plowing. Secondly, other safety, refinement and emissions-control changes add back about 60 pounds, so the 2011 Super Duty weighs about 100 pounds less than the 2008-10 trucks.

Towing

Brand new is the first-ever factory fifth wheel prep package that's been designed and engineered by Reese Hitches. The truck will come with the bed floor cut, the frame mount, and the wiring — but the customer will still have to buy the hitch that sits in the bed from either a Ford dealer or the aftermarket.

Single rear-wheel Super Duty pickups receive standard trailer sway control with roll stability control, like the system that’s offered on the Ford F-150. TSC measures trailer sway input coming into the truck based on rear yaw motion. If it senses too much, it can apply both the truck’s and trailer’s brakes (if they’re electric) through the integrated trailer brake controller and reduce engine throttle to help prevent loss of trailer control. It’s a first for this safety feature in the segment.

F-450 Pickup Changes

Ford is making big changes to its biggest Super Duty pickup model for 2011, after hearing from F-450 owners that they wanted better fuel economy and a higher top speed, according to Doug Scott, Ford's truck and SUV marketing manager.

The 2008-10 F-450’s frame is a hybrid of sorts that combines the front frame portion of the F-450 chassis cab with a wide-spaced rear frame (wider than the chassis cab’s standard 34-inch spacing) based on the F-350, so the cargo box won’t twist under load. But it weighs a lot, with a hefty base curb weight of 8,851-pounds for the four-wheel drive version.

Removing weight is a quick way to improve mileage, so Ford made major revisions to lighten up the 2011 F-450’s frame and running gear.

In back, the new F-450 swaps its old Dana S110 rear axle for a new Dana M80 and replaces the old widetrack Dana Super 60 front axle for a standard widetrack Dana 60. It also switches the F-450 chassis cab’s front frame portion with the front frame clip from the F-350 pickup.

The new F-450 chassis and axle setup is similar to the recently discontinued “Fat Boy” F-350 but the F-450 still retains its best-in-class 24,000-pound maximum trailer towing rating. Maximum payload, though, is lowered by 500-pounds, from 6,180-pounds to 5,680-pounds, according to Scott.

All of the hardware changes total up to a 600-pound weight savings are said to give the 6.7-L diesel powered 2011 F-450 a double-digit percentage improvement in fuel economy.

To raise the F-450’s top speed, the old 19.5-inch wheels have been dropped because their tires were rated up to only 80 mph. New 17-inch wheels and tires are expected to raise the 2011 F-450’s top speed above 90 mph.

With all the changes to the F-450, some might say that it’s the toughest, most capable F-350 pickup in Ford’s lineup.

Rear Differential Electronic Locker

The 2011 Super Duty adds an electronic locking rear differential for the first time that’s similar to the GKN-supplied e-locker that’s available on the F-150 FX4 off-road package and SVT Raptor.

Brewer said the e-locker has been designed by Ford and will be manufactured at the Sterling Axle plant for single-rear-wheel F-Series Super Duty trucks only.

The locker can be controlled with a dash switch. It’s best used in low-friction scenarios, such as on slippery boat ramps or in slick mud and on icy roads. It will stay engaged until the truck reaches 30 mph, at which point it disengages until the truck’s speed returns to 30 mph or less. The truck will also disengage the locker if it’s making a tight radius turn by sensing the steering wheel position, so the rear wheels and tires aren’t damaged from scrubbing on pavement.

Hill Decent Control

Similar to the system that was introduced for the 2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor, the 2011 Super Duty also receives hill descent control, which uses the truck’s ABS system to control downhill speeds without the driver having to apply the brakes. Drivers just have to steer.

Hill Descent Control

Chassis and Suspension Changes

In 2008, Ford improved the Super Duty’s frame by lowering and widening the boxed front frame to fit the 6.4-liter V-8 engine cooling package and to meet frontal impact standards without a "blocker bar." The rear was also modified to accommodate 8-inch-longer leaf springs to improve the ride and handling.

Those changes are carried over into 2011 with a few minor updates. Ford has added new cross members to improve fuel system integrity and improve its NVH levels. Further improvements to the front and rear of the frame help make sure that small cars won’t submarine under the Super Duty in the event of a crash.

The suspension has been tuned up, too. The shocks have new internal valve settings and the spring rates have been adjusted for better ride comfort. In 2008, Ford introduced its 3-plus-1 spring pack for both the diesel and gas trucks but the 2011 model SD pickups with diesel engines are setup with a new 2-plus-1 kit. Brewer said the 2-plus-1 setup reduces some of the spring binding from friction that drivers felt as a secondary impact after hitting road bumps. It also saves weight for improved fuel economy.

Exterior

It wouldn’t be a Super Duty without a big, bold front end. The 2011 SD trucks get an all-new front clip that includes a two-bar chrome grille that’s framed by two “C-clamp” style trim pieces that replace the old nostril intakes. The headlights are sleeker and the bumper follows the sharp bottom curves of the grille. Ford has removed the front fender side vents and replaced them with subtler model identifiers that are positioned just below where the A-pillar meets the hoodline.

Exterior Picture

According to Pat Schiavone, Ford’s chief truck designer, the 2008-10 SD was influenced by the burly 2002 Tonka concept, while the 2011 is influenced by the locomotive-inspired 2006 Super Chief concept.

Brewer said the aerodynamics of the trucks have improved

Ford has also changed the hood so that it opens clamshell-style, separate from the grille. It also sports inverted power-dome styling.

Interior

The inside of the Super Duty has been updated, too. It borrows the seats from the F-150, improving the old six-way power adjustable chairs to 10-way units with heaters and coolers in the Lariat and King Ranch models. The heated and cooled seats will be available for the Lariat Chassis cab models too.

There’s a new information display in the instrument cluster that can show the truck’s attitude off-road as well as the steering position. It also communicates important systems messages and the transmission’s gear state.

The Cabela’s edition Super Duty that debuted for 2009 goes away for 2011 but Ford is keeping that model’s interior storage features. There’s lockable underseat storage beneath the small center seat up front and a large storage compartment beneath the rear bench. The extra storage is standard on XLT and Lariat Crew Cab models.

Interior

The middle front seat gets a nice safety bump – the addition of a three-point safety belt.

The famous King Ranch trim package gets a few changes. The iconic Castano orange leather seats can be swapped for black ones. The interior can also be equipped with black carpeting in addition to the traditional camel color.

Black is a more contemporary color, Brewer said, and it hides dirt better. Don’t worry about hot, black seats in summer; cooled seats will be standard on the KR truck.

With the economy in the state that it’s in, there are no plans to add a Platinum model counterpart for Super Duty. But Brewer said that could be revisited when sales trend upward again.

The new 2011 Ford F-Series Super Duty pickups are scheduled to go on sale in the first quarter of 2010.

Comments

Absolutely amazing! FORD has hit it out of the park this time around. I will be getting my new 2011 next July or August 2010...so sign me up! LOVE IT!

Wow Ford actually knows how to build a heavy duty pickup , there ain't no Chevy LUV IFS suspension under that bad boy , and that off road angle meter in the dash is sweet .

Great....you still have to get out of the truck and manually lock the hubs? What are we in, 1980? Everything else is 1st class! I wonder how GM and Dodge are going to respond to these changes? I think Ford has spent A LOT of money upgrading this truck's mechanics and looks. Good job, and that's coming from a loyal Chevy man!

Great....you still have to get out of the truck and manually lock the hubs? What are we in, 1980? Everything else is 1st class! I wonder how GM and Dodge are going to respond to these changes? I think Ford has spent A LOT of money upgrading this truck's mechanics and looks. Good job, and that's coming from a loyal Chevy man!

Chris,

Actually you don't. Fords have two modes to their hubs: Automatic and Locked.

When in Automatic mode, they use a vacuum actuated diaphragm to lock and unlock the hubs for 4wd or 2wd use. As long as this is working properly you don't have to worry about ever messing with the hubs

The Locked mode is only in case the vacuum diaphragm happens to fail or, for some reason, you just want it to stay manually locked. It probably isn't needed, but it's nice that Ford incorporates a fail-safe like this into their trucks.

Just read this along with several others and as a very high volume Super Duty truck sales guy I am very excited for the 2011 to hit the lots! The ONLY thing I am not real crazy about is the dually fender design. I am sure it will grown on me with time.

I guess I should go ahead and get my personal 2001 F250 ordered up now :-)

Just read this along with several others and as a very high volume Super Duty truck sales guy I am very excited for the 2011 to hit the lots! The ONLY thing I am not real crazy about is the dually fender design. I am sure it will grown on me with time.

I guess I should go ahead and get my personal 2011 F250 ordered up now :-)

This truck looks great. I may have missed it, but wasn't ford going to incorporate some sort of exhaust brake? Is the 6.7 PSD going to be in the 2010 trucks as I thought they were initially going to do?

@BigBlue: Yep. Integrated exhaust brake that uses the VGT vanes around the turbine.

"The 2011 Super Duty is the third version of Ford’s heavy-duty pickup in the last four years and the second since Ford reworked the truck for the 2008 model year."

I love everything except the OLD body style. This is the same panels from 1998.5. If I'm able to remove my fenders, hood, bumpers, and tailgate and make it look like a new truck then I'm not overly impressed. Great features, lazy exterior design!

"I'm able to remove my fenders, hood, bumpers, and tailgate "

So you're removing all of the exterior and saying it looks like your 98. Ok.

"So you're removing all of the exterior and saying it looks like your 98. Ok."

what i'm saying is american car design struggled during the early 90's which is when the super duty hit the drawing pads. innovation as well as asthetics is what sells products. it's a reason why ford has lost a portion of its truck sales to new ventures in the pick up class. can you name any other production model that has had little body change over the last 11 years that's still in production?

The Live Drive is not standard on all 6.7L diesel trucks with the 6R140. It is an available option (and an awsome one at that!)

Ooops make that: The Live Drive PTO is not standard on all 6.7L diesel trucks with the 6R140.

@Sue: Thanks for the clarification!

Curious about safety features, I assume with Hill Descent Control, Hill Ascent Control and Trailer Sway Control it has Ford’s AdvanceTrac Traction & Stability Control?

I hope it also got the SafetyCanopy head protection airbags and seat mounted side impact thorax airbags like the current F-150.

I really like the new front end, the interior is lacking in my opinion, but everything else is impressive.

Leave it to the Big Blue Oval to to make "The Best" even better. I almost bought a 2009 Ford F350 FX4 Super Duty, but I missed the build date by ten days. I was not happy. Then I found out the 2010 would only come as a Cabela. Nice truck, but some someone who doesn't want wood inserts...it is jnot great. "Okay no problem" my dealer said. "Order the Cabela just the way you want, and when it comes in, i will replace the wood inserts with the 2008 / 2009 silver dash surrounds". Kudos to my dealer, and call me picky, but I didn't want a Super Crew. I wanted a Super Cab, with a 6½ or 8ft box. Cabela ONLY comes as a Super Crew.

Now that I have read that there is no Cabela for 2011. My question is will Ford bring back the 2008/2009 FX4? There is just something amazing about the two-tone Dark Shadow Grey with the matching bumpers and special grille. Also, Ford, if it isn't too much to ask, could you incorporate the old colours into the new Dash? Which is the Sexiest Dashboard I have ever seen! Also, to be really picky, could you bring back the Black leather seats with the white stitching? I can guarantee I am not the only one who misses this.

I cannot wait to see (and buy) the 2011 Super Duty. Ford just made "The Best Truck Ever" Even better!

@ Mike Levine: Thanks for showing all the details. The new instrument cluster looks very nice. I wonder how the new 6.2 Boss V8 will perform in a tow test. The new transmission will probably help a lot.

Technically the design looks very good and in step with what is required today. Double overdrive is nice and it's about time manufactures gave the operators of these trucks credit for knowing how to operate them properly by permitting the driver to have more control over the transmission shifting and offering higher gear ratios. Front exterior is good, but I also don't like the anitiquated "Dodge Ram" dually rear fender design.

Please, please,please build a King Ranch regular cab. Ford says a regular cab truck is a work truck, but leather seats last longer, are easier to clean, and if I am working in my truck all day I want all the creature comforts. Besides it is important to look your best when stopping at the coffee shop. Come on Ford--its easy-- a REGULAR CAB KING RANCH?????

Great Going -- All our 450 Trucks Are Manual Trans --
and The IDIOTS --at For Are going to Kill the Manual
Trans OPTION -- REAL SMART - ! WE Will Change
Companys after 30 Years of FORD --and Go to a Truck
Company --That will Allow Customer To Buy WHAT THE
CUSTOMER WANTS --!

I was curious if you could tell me what kind of motor the 2011 F-350 has? Is it a International, Ford, Cummins, etc?
Thanks
Rich

I liked my '03 6.0litre truck's interior. The new interiors after that now look "skitzfrenic". The different shapes look like they were designed-by-committee! Ya lost me... until that is cleared up, in the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy my '08 GMC Sierra SLE. Nice... but I miss that Ford.

I love the new ford. I have owned 4 ford diesels with hudge lifts and put every one threw hell including the one I have now. The only thing I dont like in the new ford is the gay dodge dually rear fenders. You got to fix that.

I was going to trade my 09' F-450 King Ranch for the 2011 for the mpg increase. Now that the new F-450 is basically an F-350 with a tow pkg I'll just keep my 09' thanks you very much!
My F-450 scaled at 9,400lbs the other day empty and I love every big fat pound when I'm towing my 5th wheel. That's 400lbs more than the GCWR of my 03' 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins! And I can still put over 5,000lbs in the box! And no 19.5 rubber!?? What in the world is Ford thinking? Who on earth needs to tow anything above 80mph! (ford says they'll be able to drive up to 90mph now...oh goodie) And the brakes have to be smaller all around with the 17" wheels, (I'll bet they justify that with the new C-brake)
An F-450 without the massive Dana S110 rear axle!! I bend over several times a week just to look at that massive hunk of iron under my F-450 and grin everytime. Ford, people who buy F-450's typically are not tree hugging, the world's going to burn up tomorrow kind of folks. With tax I paid $70,000 for the King of Iron, not a lite weight F-450 hybrid! Not one problem with my truck period. Would prefer a 6.7 cummins under the hood, but I can always dream right?

Oh, I forgot just one other thing. Who on Earth! Designed the fenders on the dually!!!! OMG are you trying to attract Girliemen to the F-350-F-450?
IF they look cheap on the Dodge 3500 someone thought they would look better on the Ford. Did Obama's green administration scare Ford into making less capable truck. AND, I hear that the diesel option has rocketed to well over $9,000!
More $$$ less Iron! Toby Keith will NOT be calling the 2011 F-450 "THE BIG DOG DADDY" I will keep my 09' F-450 King Ranch until my 6.4 dies. Then I'll put a striaght 6 cat or cummins medium duty diesel under the hood. Just imagine lifting the hood of a black F-450 and seeing a red cummings 6.7 or 8.3 with a chrome valve cover. Or a Black F-450 with a bright yellow CAT 6 cyl with a black valve cover. Oh Yea!

I can't wait to test drive the 2011 F-450 in February!

The 17" rims are good for 3,300 pounds each, so 6 = way more weight that I need to put in a truck.

5,800 pound cargo rating, just what I need to carry a really large camper!

Ford already makes thousands of diesel engines around the world, I can't wait to see how well this one will be.

Fred.

To the Ford Executives,

You bumped my 2010 450 out of production due to lack of Navistar engines. Order was placed in November with money down. I have ordered a 2011 based on the dealers knowledge of the truck, but each day I find something different about the truck that clashes with what I've been told. My salesman has requested the 2011 public order guide, but he was told they would not reach the dealers until the 2011 superduties hit the lots in Spring. What good will that do me. My family has owned Fords for 70 years. Ford needs to help customers in unique situations.

Were can i look at a picture of the 2011 superduty Dually

Does any body know if the superduty will come in the Harley Davidson model or not for 2011?

yes they will

I bought a brand new 2009 F350 in April of 09. This is my second superduty first with a diesel and I love it. I have seen the new 2011 superduty, it will be hard to see that on the road and not have one. Ford has the best truck on the road by far, most capable,durable and most powerful. I wouldn't own anything but a ford, but a chevy or dodge could do. GREAT JOB ford with your new SUPERDUTY and helping keep FOREIGN trucks off the road.

will someone please tell chevy to give up trucks after looking what ford has dich out i can see why thanks ford you understand how a truck should look

Does anyone know when the 2011 SD's will be on the dealer lots?

@Phil Schrader: In April.

Hi can someone assure me that they are bringing out a harley 2011 super duty if so where can i see a pic.

cheers wayne

I have anF450 truck ordered since Jan would you tell me why it has not been delivered. Thank You
Bruce Hall

Is there any way that you could get the new F-250 in a King Ranch with a 6 Speed manual transmission for those of us who enjoy driving a stick shift truck?

@Josh: A six-speed MT is no longer available for the Super Duty.

The one thing I really wonder about is the urea (sp) addition. How much and how often is it going to need to be added? The article did not address that. The lack of a manual transmission option is not good either.

FELICITACIONES ESTE FORD ES UNA OBRA MAESTRA.

I test-drove a 2011 F-350 yesterday. The power/acceleration is amazing but the steering feels like a 1970 Cadillac and the rear suspension jumps all over the place. I am not sure why the steering is so loose but I can understand once loaded the rear suspension will drive better. The huge power didn't convenience me to buy the Ford though. I went with the Ram at much lower price (I priced basically the top of the line models). Bummer, I really wanted to buy the Ford since they didn't take public money handouts. Hope Ford's new diesel last as well as it functions.

Just inherited a little grandson. He loves our black 2000 f-150 4x4 XL. It's just a work truck, but man do we love it.
We go everywhere together everyday since I'm retired and he hasn't started school yet.
Hopefully we'll get a new Ford this year and keep rolling.
You've got no idea what you're missing till you spend your days out in the world with a five year old boy and hear things like, "Go down this road 'cause the deer are asleep and we can wake them up and see them sail across the sky!" because he thinks, not just Sant's, but ALL deer can fly!
More memories made in the last year than in my whole life before. Thanks Ford. Thanks Silas.

I would never ever buy a truck that only came with an automatic transmission. I realize that American is passing me by, in more ways than one. For instance, I actually have enough money to buy one.

But I won't. With that single stupid mistake, Ford went from my preferred brand to not even considered.

Our local diesel repair shop says Ford & GM have neither had a good reliable diesel pickup since 1990 something & that the Cummins Dodge is probably the best choice out of the big 3. Is anyone making or converting a 3/4 or 1 ton CNG pickup yet? I have a dual-fuel, 2004 Chevy, 3/4 ton gas/CNG service van that we use daily & works great. These dual fuel vehicles are hard to find & expensive but must be coming soon??

There was a comment of having to get out to lock the hubs
Hell yes would rather do that than rely on electronics and buttons! Less wear and tear.
All the bell and whistles do not do you any good if the button breaks.
would love to see this method come back into 4x4s any day
over push buttons.

Couple of items:
- I don't know why all you guys care what it looks like - it's as if you care more about appearance than function. Who cares if the body panels don't change every ten years? How long do you spend looking at yourself in the mirror? (And why would I care what some C&W singer thinks about a truck - he's a singer, not a trucker no matter how "tough" he talks)
- Manual transmission; bring it back. There's plenty of us that want a manual. Support the customers that pay the bucks. My 2006MY F350 SRW is a manual and I have no desire for a slush box. They're putting so much R&D into making an auto operate like a manual they might as well just offer a manual, and a regular auto and save us all some buck.
- High levels of trim without all the unnecessary doodads. I want my leather seat but I don't want hill descent control

Thanks Ford!

need a 6 spped manual!!!!!!

damn straight, i'll buy this pickup. It's a Beauty one heck of a beast. I want to have one with dually, long bed, crew cab, 6-speed manual, 4X4, strong winch in front, Cowbar, top lights, ya'll name it.

What is the mpg rating on the 6.7 diesel super duty?



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